Designing Learning for Behaviour Change with Julie Dirksen

Podcast: Facilitating on Purpose · Beth Cougler Blom

Opublikowano: 2025-08-27

In this episode, host Beth Cougler Blom talks with Julie Dirksen about designing learning experiences that support real behaviour change. Julie shares insights from her latest book, Talk to the Elephant, and offers practical ways to go beyond knowledge transfer to create meaningful impact. Beth and Julie also talk about: The difference between knowledge gaps and behaviour gaps The rider and elephant metaphor and why it matters for learning design How to identify what really needs fixing—people or systems The importance of pre- and post-learning supports Why designing for managers is just as important as de...