130. How did DEI get such a bad rap?

Podcast: JUSTUS with Jack & Gonzo · Jack D’Aurora and John Gonzales

Opublikowano: 2026-06-17

How did the phrase, “diversity, equity and inclusion”—DEI—which sounds like a positive thing, get such a bad rap? The answer lies in how the concept has often been introduced. Our guest, Dr. Melissa Crum, explains that most people aren’t reacting to the actual idea of DEI; they’re reacting to how the idea was introduced. Instead of hearing, “Let’s look at systems that create problems,” people hear, “Oh, I’m the problem?!” And once that happens, people shut down. Dr. Crum helps people separate themselves as individuals from the systems they live in. She’s not telli...