Ep. 210 Kashaun Cooper - Pressure Doesn't Change You. It Reveals You.

Podcast: Hello Chaos · Jennifer Sutton

Opublikowano: 2026-07-19

Kashaun Cooper used to get written up at work for pushing back on every process anyone handed him. Now founders pay him to build the exact thing he used to hate. That's not a fun contradiction, that's the whole story. He didn't wake up one day and become a systems guy. He just figured out something most people never do, that hating structure and needing structure were never the same fight. Kashaun runs the Five Stages of Yes Leadership and Development Institute now, and he built it off one lesson that took him years to actually feel...