571. Music, Artistry and Taste in an AI Era with Benjamin Groff

Podcast: Get Yourself Optimized® · Stephan Spencer

Opublikowano: 2026-09-24

What if the difference between a hit song and a forgotten one has almost nothing to do with talent? My guest, Benjamin Groff, has spent his career finding out. He's a music publisher who's signed artists like Ryan Tedder, Tiësto, Kelly Clarkson, and Kid Cudi, built Kobalt's first U.S. office from the ground up, and now runs his own boutique publishing company, Brill Building — which just landed its first Billboard Hot 100 #1 with Beyoncé's "Break My Soul." Back in 2016, Benjamin and I had a conversation on a bus tour of NASA about whether AI w...